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  • nomi
    12-12 04:57 PM
    All of the documents in this link are written by
    "Micheal Aytes /s/,
    Acting Associate Director, Domestic Operations
    U.S. of Citizenship and Immigration Services
    Department of Homeland Security"

    I wonder if he is the person we should be talking to. Although the document does not indicate which city he works in. He should at leats be able to tell us who in USCIS makes these decisions if he is not the right person.

    Also I was not able to find anything about not allowing concurrently to file 140/485 applications. Where was this information published? Does anyone know?



    12/11/2006: USCIS Considers Termination of Concurrent Filing (140/485)

    According to the USCIS rule-making agenda, the USCIS is to propose to terminate current concurrent I-140 and I-485 filing. The proposed rule is scheduled to be published in March 2007 with 60-day comment period. It is thus not imminent, but in the later part of next year(Oops!), the immigrant community may see a totally different filing procedure including electronic registration and filing just like current PERM labor certificaiton application procedure. Once the concurrent filing is terminated, the immigrants may experience a terrible pain as related to maintenance of nonimmigrant status pending I-140 petition, eligibility for 245K benefit, plus unavailability of EAD and AP pending I-140 petition, AC-21 180-day portability, etc. etc. Should the I-140 petition processing be dragged, the pain will be extremely unbearable

    http://www.immigration-law.com/





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  • serg
    07-01 09:54 PM
    When prominent business houses like Microsoft, Google, Cisco, Oracle and organizations like AILA seem powerless when it comes to influencing senators, lawmakers and government organizations like USCIS and DOS, what can IV team do to change the policies. Sorry I did not mean to criticize, but that's the truth, unfortunately!

    At the time when nobody could, Sir Alexander Fleming find out about penicillin. But we are not alone tho ;)





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    11-04 11:31 AM
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  • ItIsNotFunny
    02-13 01:43 PM
    Ash,

    I can understand your concerns and frustration. You have taken good amount of time and efforts to draft this.

    We all are going through the same pain but need to be carefully for our choice of words. You don't want listeners to be on opposite side of what you are saying just because of bad choice of words and language. What you are mentioning can be drafted in good words (In India we used to call as Sugar Coated).

    There are parts of world never give citizenship or too difficult to get perm residency also like Switzerland, Germany to name couple of them. Lets be more objective and decide how we encounter the situation we are in.

    I am always promoter of Gandhigiri and second flower campaign. AlbertPinto has started a thread for this. Lets just work on this.

    I would like to bring to the notice of your readers, editorial committee and leaders of
    the Indian community of a systematic way that (legally) the US Government is practicing

    ....

    driven out of the country which they have loyally served for varying periods of time.....

    God Bless America....God Save America from 'some' of its own people.

    Thanks.



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  • Hermione
    09-26 10:44 AM
    [QUOTE=BharatPremi;173398]Hermione,

    How confident are you to call them "Ignorant".... It could be very planned and calculative agenda. Writer writes in CNN. Never ever be ignorant about their tactful agenda, capacity and wilful application of the polity.[QUOTE]

    Yeah, and everyone is out there to get you.

    Honestly, I think it is a waste of time to try to educate Americans what is what in immigration system. We need to push for our issues by proving why it is a good thing for the country, and not get caught up in this vs that. OK, so you convince the editor that the rally was not about H1Bs. All he will do is wack the sentence about the rally out of the article, because now it does not refer to the topic of the article, which is about H1 visas. Would that be an achievement? Hardly.





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  • BECsufferer
    02-13 06:52 PM
    FYI .. This post is what I received in e-mail few days back.

    I would like to bring to the notice of your readers, editorial committee and leaders of
    the Indian community of a systematic way that (legally) the US Government is practicing
    legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and Chinese and other H-1B visa holders.

    While it is agreeable that the current economic downturn is the worst one has seen.
    It is time to band together with what resources we have and make it thru this perfect
    storm. However, the machinations of a few politicians and the further connivance of the
    USCIS, we are about to see a systematic 'legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and other
    foreign professionals'.

    Leaders of the ethnic Indian community should take up this issue. Leading Indian attorneys
    such as Chugh Firm, Khanna Firm, Sheela Murthy, and leaders like Dr. Romesh Japra and
    Yogi Chugh etc should do something about this with their contacts at the highest levels.

    How is this happening and why is it ethnic cleansing?

    Since 1990's every year several thousands of Indian professionals come to the US. Because of
    delay in processing of their Green Cards a vast majority of them are on H-1B.

    With the current downturn, Sen. Grassley et all have raised such a stink that companies are
    forced to lay off H-1b holders first before they lay off any other US employees. While the US
    employers may not always do this. They are being shamed into revealing how they laid off
    US Citizens before laying off others. Net Net....Indian professionals are being laid off from
    large companies (ofcourse, along with layoffs of US citizens and Green card holders as well).

    Now, having been laid off, H-1b holders are forced to leave the country within 10 days if they
    do not find another job. Now, many are forced to leave the US as they cannot sustain living
    in the US. However, some enterprising few are finding lower paying jobs or are finding so called
    'body shopping companies' to file their H-1b transfer in anticipation of staying around till the
    economy improves and they can find suitable jobs. Here is when the systematic targetting and
    ethnic cleansing is coming to the fore. The USCIS in the past which did not, out of the ordinary
    question such H-1b transfers. is raising Request for Evidence (RFE) from these companies.

    These RFEs are raised in such a way that it is impossible to answer them. They are thus
    not only targetting the H-1b candidates, they are systematically undermining the people
    (companies) who want to help out H-1b candidates out of their predicament of being stranded.

    Imagine living in the US for the past 8 years. Owning a home, then getting in line for the
    Green Card. You are close to getting the green card but because of backlog you only get
    what is called the Employment Authorization Card (EAD). So, you continue to be on H-1b status.
    Then your employer fires you....

    There are two paths here.....Technically, with a EAD card you can get employment anywhere
    with what is called US AC21 Portability.However, AC21 EAD portability comes with the need
    that a person with EAD should have another job with the exact same profile and same salary.
    In this market who is going to give you a job with this exact profile as your old job. The only
    way for a person to stay on 'legally' is to file a backup H-1b.

    Thus a person in the 'last stages' of his green card also actually ends up joining a fresh h-1b
    software professional.

    Now, what will the USCIS do? They will ensure that they find some issue with the RFE response
    provided by the 'body shopping company' and issue a denial of H-1b extension.

    The body shopping companies are trying to be the Raoul Wallenbergs (helping with visa when a
    person is in distress - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg). However, the USCIS will
    ensure that literally hundred thousand Indian and Chinese professionals are kicked out of the
    US. The same professionals who came to US to contribute to its success will now be kicked
    out of US against their wish. The companies who are willing to help them will also be harassed
    in the bargain, some of those companies will be investigated for non-payment of wages, some
    of them will be subjected to USCIS audits for trying to help these helpless people whose lives
    are being uprooted.....I am not in any way saying that lives of US citizens is not being uprooted.
    These are very tough times and there is no reason to pick on the helpless, unrepresented people.

    This is as un-american as it gets. US is famous for its chivalry. Over 5000 lives have been sacrificed
    in Iraq to foster democracy and fairness in that part of the world. This is an un-American as it gets.
    This is a planned lynching and killing of the 'spirit' of the foreign worker who came to US dreaming
    of making it the American dream and participating/contributing to its success.

    What should the USCIS do?

    Given the tough times...They should allow people to stay on in the US as long as another
    employer is willing to keep them in status. They should not question the H-1b applications as
    everyone knows that USCIS can find issues with every single H-1b extension filed right now
    with their respective offices. As someone said - Rejecting a H1b now is like issuing speeding
    tickets at INDY 500. Even the largest companies such as Microsoft and IBM can have their
    H-1b applications rejected by the USCIS with the silliest of excuse.

    What is in it for the USCIS not to do this ethnic cleansing?

    Long term vision for America not just right now. This year the US Embassies in India issued over
    98,000 visas to students from India. These are students who are paying their way thru education
    in the US (a country with the most expensive but best education). If it turns out that US specifically
    targets Indians for 'special h-1b rejection treatment' literally half of them will never aspire to come
    to the US within the next 2 or 3 years.

    Right now the economy is bad, but it will improve: It is a 'perfect storm' right now which is causing
    this downturn. The economy will surely improve in the next few quarters. There will then be new
    sectors of the economy that will boom that will need professionals. There will be enough work by then
    for these H-1b professionals as well as US residents.

    Confident and free people contribute positively:
    If the word spreads that even in bad times this society did not turn on them then the US people
    will be appreciated. But, if the message is, when you are down they will kick you where it
    hurts, then this society will not succeed. Just imagine, there are at least 250,000 (maybe more) people of Indian
    and Asian origin who would end up buying a house if they knew for sure that they could continue
    to live without the fear of being 'ethnically cleansed'. Most Indians and Asians save money and do
    not splurge. Just this measure of confidence will ensure that they will spend money in the US
    economy. Just their contributions will ensure that there is a bump in the housing sector.

    Finally, As they say - "Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it". The US
    is perpetrating a betrayal of people who could contribute to its success in the long run. But, what they are
    getting is a form of 'systematic and legally driven ethnic cleansing' - they are being identified and
    driven out of the country which they have loyally served for varying periods of time.....

    God Bless America....God Save America from 'some' of its own people.

    Thanks.

    Dude;

    This is called natural correction. Read other posts and you would realize that for last 10 yrs majority of these so called IT programmers didn't even go to proper engineering college. More than half of them weren't even qualified to do the jobs. And than most of them came here and sat on bench, even though their actual jobs were still being searched or finalized. This system was mis-used and abused. Now it's time to pay for it!

    So thank God this is happening and hope USCIS does good job this time.



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  • desi3933
    05-26 05:18 PM
    The applicant was found to be inadmissible pursuant to section 212(a(6)(C)(ii) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (the Act), for falsely claiming to be a U.S. citizen.

    http://www.uscis.gov/err/H4%20-%20Application%20for%20Reentry%20after%20Removal%2 0or%20Aggravated%20Felony%20Conviction/Decisions_Issued_in_2008/Jun162008_07H4212.pdf





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  • ajay
    11-10 05:20 PM
    I will send.



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  • desi3933
    01-30 02:54 PM
    Ok.......

    So if I am understanding this correctly, the time from when I entered US on AP (Dec 08 till today), I am considered out of status?

    NO. You are not out of status because of AP entry.


    From what I understood it is ok to not be working while on AOS having entered on AP.

    Correct. However, USCIS looks for your status history since last entry on non-immigrant visa. 245(k) covers only 180 days for status violation for such period.

    Example

    Mr Chanakya Pandit (fictitious name) has filed for eb-3 India in July 2007 for I-485. He has PD of Sep 2005 (not current).

    Mr Pandit entered last on H1 visa on Jan 21st 2006 and he is working for ABC company. As per H1 LCA, his salary is 65k and he is getting paid 62k.

    He entered on USA using AP in Oct 2008. He is using EAD to work.

    Since he was getting paid less athn H1 salary, he is out of status since Jan 21st 2006 and he has accumulating out of status days until date of I-485 filing. If this out of status > 180 days, his I-485 can be denied just on this basis alone.

    If person is out of status for more than 180 days at thetime of filing for I-485, he can denied entry even on AP. Read your AP document, it mentions warning about of out of status right there.

    ____________________
    Not a legal advice.
    US Citizen of Indian Origin





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  • vin13
    11-12 03:26 PM
    Guys

    So are we having a conference call or have we decided that we should individually write letter that has already been drafted.

    Contact your congressman and use the draft to help get clarrification/resolution. If they cannot help resolve, but can get an appointment with a higher official then one of us can go meet them. Some of us are willing to fly/drive.. at our own expense to meet the official.

    I know atleast 3 members including me who would be meeting lawmakers of our respective constituencies. When we meet the lawmakers we plan to discuss about our provisions in the CIR(Recapture, country cap,...) and then in the interim we would request them to help us resolve the quarterly spillover.



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  • gc28262
    08-12 04:19 PM
    Such is our seriousness, the thread barely started it was at the bottom of the list just awaiting its natural death. Whereas the most meningless threads are at the top of the list. If people can not EB3 backlog seriously then i am sure they don't deserve any GCs.

    Don't be disappointed.
    We are focusing on another thread right now.
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1599562-team-visa-allocation-by-dos.html

    Please post your ideas on this thread.





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  • actaccord
    02-17 08:36 AM
    one of the reason I would like Core Team to consider sending email about the Advocacy Day.... that email will get more inactive member like Chandu who got greened and has no good reason (nothing wrong abt it...most of us do the same) to continue visiting IV. Please consider sending one email on Feb and March.

    If someone gets out because of this email I am sure he/she is not going to work on any IV activities even if IV never sent any email. Those members join IV just for some free advice and nothing else.

    Pappu & StarRun consider this request and let us know where we stand on this. I had collected some content from this forum for flyers ( decided not to pursue further after discussion and advice from StarRun).

    On side note, I agree with Chandu regarding convincing our spouse on these kind of expense and participation is really tough a job. We have bought up by teaching/preaching any activities other than studying (for grownups working) is not worth it.

    I agree with you. I thought about it and decided to come to DC. I was greened last year and definitely IV was a very big factor in my GC journey. I have not been logging onto IV for a while as I have been very busy with my personal life, and job tensions, kid etc.. and all sorts of other things.

    After GC, your life usually changes only if you want it to change. I am still in the process of understanding how best to change. As of now, nothing changed - not even my job :).

    I am surprised that people still do not want to help themselves. I see everyone looking at the visa bulletin and getting frustrated, but why do people n ot take the extra step?, I really don't understand. I urge members to come forward and help yourselves. - Please.



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  • luvschocolates
    08-21 08:06 PM
    Thank you to those of you who were kind enough to respond with helpful information and some understanding for my situation. I do appreciate that much.
    And for those of you who were sarcastic and rude and accusing me of being illegal, if that was the case, then why has USCIS not stated that one time in all the correspondence I have had from them and why are they willing to give me a chance to file the required forms at this time?
    They know where I live, who I live with and anything else they need to know. Illegal immigrants don't make themselves known to anybody that could/would report them. If I had something to hide, I would do so, but I have no secrets from them whatsoever. I have done all I have been asked to do and have the paperwork to prove it. I have not gotten a job anywhere outside of the home I live in and they are well aware of what I do here, I have not committed any crimes, my biometrics have come back clear, therefore I have no criminal record in my home country, so therefore I am not a threat whatsoever to anyone in the US.
    No one at USCIS has ever stated by phone or mail that I am here illegally and if that was the case, I would think they would have been quick to deport me since they knew everything they needed to know in order to find me and still do. I have nothing to hide.





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  • h1techSlave
    03-18 09:42 PM
    USCIS director took the course and he failed. Then he went to Moscow and bought a fake BPD&R degree for $175. No wonder we are in such a mess.

    On a lighter note .

    The USCIS has a 4 year full time course for understanding PD's and restrogression . It is called BPD&R ( Bachelor of Priority Dates and Retrogression ) . This degree is recognised only by the in the US and H1b's are also granted based on this course .There is no education evaluation needed.



    You could also do an MBPD&R and leads to Phd also . You could then join the USCIS and set PD's for the countries .



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  • satishku_2000
    04-10 05:51 PM
    IEEE believes that ppl educated in the US should not be sent back and should actually stay here. I agree with that stance. After all, they want what is best for ppl born here and those who have been educated here. It is IEEE-USA :)


    As far as I know most of the "US educated foreigners"come here just to pursue thier higher education and have no intention of working here. Do they show their immigrant intent while applying for VISA and still get their student VISAs





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  • BharatPremi
    07-10 12:28 AM
    Whether they are smart people or not, a future department of justice investigation will find out.


    http://s202395528.onlinehome.us/category/general/

    However I see a way out for DOS/USCIS. They can avoid class action by claiming that they had warned the public in advance via the July 2 update to the July visa bulletin, and had modified the July visa bulletin only on July 6, after warning the public in advance. This way they can accept all applications received till July 5, and will be covered against any class action law suits.

    No, it will be very difficult for them to follow this as non filers or filers after 5th would come with the arguments like we were still respecting USCIS's published notice and so we did not file (non filers) and others would come up with the argument that we decided to file with having clear understanding of its rejection as filers on 5th or before did so you (USCIS) cannot discriminate merely based upon filing date.



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  • caliducas
    07-19 12:49 AM
    this 4 to 6 weeks is from 2nd July or 17 July?

    I'm assuming it's from July 17.





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  • qasleuth
    05-26 05:50 PM
    Clearly dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. we are not talking about a situation like what to do if a thug holds you at gunpoint and asked for money. we talking about a Govt rule or law. it's about what is right and what is wrong. The officer could throw a bad word at you like "i am pretty sure you are terrorist" which would be in our favor. worst case he would shoot me, but chances of that happening are next to zero.

    I want to remain silent, raise suspicion, make them scramble to find out who i am, make them feel like working hard only to find out that I have made a fool of them. That's the only way they would realize how stupid the rule is.

    Just imagin that Sunday 1000 people had remained silent, they would have to call to their superiors for more officers, more cars, more laptops, documents, more running around, etc. That would have become an issue in the state senate where the budget is already tight, they are fighting for pennies and the nonsense border patrol has spent millions in a day to find NOTHING (because ALL illegals had escapped by saying one word "CITIZEN").

    BUT... it needs guts to do that, not sure if you fall in that category.


    It has nothing to do with guts but common sense. When a police officer asks for your driving license and registration, would you be silent or even ask for an attorney quoting your rights ? The law clearly states (read my previous post on this thread), within 100 miles of International border, border patrol officer can ask for your immigration status, if you say you are not a citizen (see Desi3933's post as to what can happen if you say you are a citizen when you are not). If you refuse to produce proof, you can be arrested, plain and simple.





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  • nojoke
    09-17 10:06 PM
    it seems like that ...actually if things get worse and many of us indeed lose jobs ..then I guess the mighty GC will finally become just a silly card.
    here is a link which explains why it is not yet over ..I was talking to a friend and he told me that credit card companies, auto loans , commercial loans are in big trouble and could be the next shoe to drop. as for housing ..there was a small light at the end of tunnel ..but it seems that it was big bang collapse of wall street ..

    ------------
    http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/105782/How-We-Got-Here-It-Is-Housing-Stupid

    It will probably cause inflation. Eventually they hope that house prices will catch up with the inflation. But a small problem though. The salary is not going to rise to match the housing price. The great benefits of global economy.:)





    deepimpact
    09-10 01:04 PM
    I thinkThis year will be good for EB3.
    With 700 per queter going to EB2I and EB2C, this means that EB2I will go only upto few months by Jul-2011 before the spill kicks IN.
    Once the spill over kicks in EB2 will move by atmost Jul-2007 (as there are won't be any 485 filed for India / China post 2007. Even if they are it is unlikely that they will be processed in 1 or 2 months). So I expect EB3 to use most of the spill over this year.

    CATCH: IF USCIS allows filing of 485 for POST 2007 FIASCO then the above doesn't hold true.

    If there are no I-485 pending for EB2 I/C then the demand goes to zero (unless DOS/USCIS uses pending I-140s to decide demand). And if demand < supply then the category goes to current (atleast per the explanation in the demand data document).And definitely if EB2 I/C folks post July 2007 are allowed to file I-485 then USCIS will realize demand is not zero but say 50K. Then again next month PD goes back to late 2007.

    I think visa numbers are assigned to I-485 before they are processed for demand data purposes, otherwise the demand data prior to CY 2006 for EB2 I will not be zero with some people with 05 PDs still waiting for GCs. But, again this is all speculation and the situation will be clear by Sep 2011 when almost all of EB2I/C pending I-485s will have been cleared.





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    11-14 11:41 AM
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