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  • sachin76
    04-12 01:36 PM
    I field my EAD renewal electronically on 4/10/10. I will be sending supporting documents today.

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  • msp1976
    02-01 09:25 PM
    All moderators,

    Please watch out anything that comes out of Senator Kennedy's office...
    Some one in Kennedy's office is hell bent on getting rid of paragraph (5) in there....
    paragraph (5) is the one that gave us the 'soft' country limits...

    Here is the law text....


    TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part I > � 1152

    (5) Rules for employment-based immigrants
    (A) Employment-based immigrants not subject to per country limitation if additional visas available
    If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 1153 (b) of this title for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter.
    (B) Limiting fall across for certain countries subject to subsection (e) of this section
    In the case of a foreign state or dependent area to which subsection (e) of this section applies, if the total number of visas issued under section 1153 (b) of this title exceeds the maximum number of visas that may be made available to immigrants of the state or area under section 1153 (b) of this title consistent with subsection (e) of this section (determined without regard to this paragraph), in applying subsection (e) of this section all visas shall be deemed to have been required for the classes of aliens specified in section 1153 (b) of this title.

    If the 'soft quota' is gone...everything else is bullshit....

    Every time I see something come out of Senator's office....They always strike para 5...

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  • das0
    05-17 11:32 AM
    Question: After Green card, how long do i MUST live in the same state where Labor was originally issued?

    - i cant find information on this at this forum search tool

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  • Hassan11
    04-01 02:11 PM
    New Poll for RD is here: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18287

    Please vote. Thanks

    Can someone please create a poll for ROW RDs. It should be monthly banded
    between May to Aug 2007.
    I don't find an option for me to create a poll.


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  • hai_yeh_gc
    08-15 08:37 AM
    Hi Guys,

    Happy to say , got the CPO status last night for my EAD.

    I had e-filed on May 25th. 4 days back had called up customer service, and one lady said she would send an expedite request. Probably that did the trick. I had taken info pass appmnt for Aug 25 and was planning to meet the local congresman today.

    Good luck you all. I know how frustrating the wait is ..

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  • pappu
    03-25 10:37 AM
    Starsun I would request you to put in another clarification for the benefit of all so that IV Core's stand is well known and published. Predictions & calculations help people to know what the ground reality is and plan their lives. Now we don�t have people on IV whether EB2 or EB3 being sad after every VB because everyone knows when to expect what and predictions and calculations IMHO has gone a long way in correcting that situation.

    I read several posts promoting advocacy which is very good however they take pride in trashing predictions and calculations for no apparent reason it seems to be in fashion / vogue. If advocacy has to be promoted it has to be done in a positive way there is no need to trash predictions and calculations at every available opportunity. Some of these immature comments are very disrespectful to the effort that is being put in my many of us on the predictions blog. If some people do not like what is being done on that blog they are really free not to visit but unnecessary comments should really stop or be moderated.

    Teddy. The intention of such post is to tell people that they need to look beyond spending time on predictions. Predictions can help people know the extent of the backlog. For some it is a motivating factor because they were in the dark until USCIS started publishing data. People used to think their Greencard is round the corner and had no idea about the backlog. So yes the data and estimations have helped get a clearer picture. And this has benefited our community. IV has worked for several months to get the data from USCIS through its agenda item in the past. Today USCIS is publishing data at regular intervals because IV community had participated in a mass campaign to get FOIA data from USCIS. There is a whole history of advocacy behind the data everyone is using for prediction today and it was advocacy that got things done. However they should not get stuck with it and have a more 360 degree view of the issue. For some predictions are a source of encouragement for advocacy work. People leading predictions can play an important role in giving direction to others and help solve the root cause of the problem.They should be urged use it for the advocacy work as well if possible. For example a good research document can be made to illustrate visually the extent of backlogs and wait times. This document can be then circulated to media and lawmaker offices. Do not look at predictions in isolation. Secondly, the data people are using is still incomplete and has lot of assumptions. I had posted some update on the data in the donor forum early this month based on a recent meeting. So predictions we see on the forums will not be fully correct. People need to use predictions as means rather than consider it as an end.


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  • amitjoey
    09-29 05:25 PM
    You made very good points. May I suggest we ask members to call on the phone too if they're busy? This actually worked in delaying the first Bailout in 2009, when they received numerous calls.
    Customer service reps do this for hours everyday in some places.

    We have had phone and email campaigns in the past. Phone campaigns work the best when a specific bill is being debated and there is the target 2-3 days campaign. The rest of the time, person-to person presentation is the best.

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  • needhelp!
    05-16 05:54 PM
    131 members have called.. 1 Congressman has become co-sponsor
    Come on guys.. if 1000 members call I am sure more support will follow.
    Are you telling all your friends?


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  • map_boiler
    08-02 02:36 PM
    Finaly received the 1-year renewal EADs today. This time there was no "approval notice sent" email/LUD.

    albertpinto and other folks who filed in April/May and still waiting...hang in there, you all should be receiving your cards soon. If you haven't already, try filing an SR by calling NCSC. I am not sure if that's what helped in our case, but it can't hurt your chances. InfoPass was useless in our case...the guy flat out said he cannot help us.

    Here's a quick recap of our case:
    EAD efiled at TSC May 27th
    Receipt and biometrics notices received: June 1st week
    Biometrics done: June 19th
    First card ordered email: June 28th
    InfoPass: July 28th
    SR filed through NCSC: July 28th
    Second card production ordered email: July 29th
    Cards received in mail: Aug 2nd

    got the second card production ordered email today. first one was on june 28th. hopefully this time, we'll get the approval notice sent email in the next couple of days...or latest in the next week or so.

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  • AirWaterandGC
    04-30 07:27 PM
    any response from anyone would be greatly appreciated.


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  • pappu
    06-26 10:11 AM
    The situation is the same. In my case and of course in most of others too, what he/she said is correct. Waiting for Eb3 to cross 2001 has become a difficult thing. If I started an EB2 app rather than hoping positively, I would have finished my wait for GC.

    Ever since retrogression started the dates have not crossed 2001. 245i or not, the backlog is a fact. Sad part, when there is action items from IV, trying to talk to my state members, I have realized and been told that IV does not cater to EB3 anymore. It is disheartening how much ever I try to explain, occasional members look at IV threads like EB2-EB3 predictions and say there is no hope for EB3 and also IV has no answer to it.

    I tried my part...too bad I was not able to participate in the IV advocacy day due to family emergency. anyway, let us hope IV's persistence yields us the results. My heart goes for a lot of EB3s who may automatically qualify for EB2 just due to their experience.

    Best of luck to all.

    You are hearing utter nonsense from your friends. They have no inclination to find out the truth or wish to take part in the action item. Such armchair strategy folks are the reason we are all suffering in EB3 I. If these folks joined this effort and worked hard to fix it, we would have made lot more progress. Despite being highly educated, some people fall prey to divisive posts and opinions on the forums without checking the facts.

    People who had come to the DC advocacy day this month know what we do and that our focus is solving EB retrogression completely. We do not talk about EB2 , EB3 categories. We talk about the overall retrogression in EB visas.

    The biggest damage and threat to this effort is not from anti-immigrants or other interest groups but from people of our own community who spread lies, pursue personal agenda and grudges, talk against this effort and cause damage to this community effort. They forget that this damages their own cause. Have you seen divisive posts, or anti-organization posts on the forums of anti-immigrants? Just think about it.

    After leading this effort for more than 4 years I have come to a realization that we as a community are the reason of our own failure and the reason for our own successes. There is nobody else to be blamed. If we have to blame someone for this broken system, it is ourselves for not being able to get together and fix it.

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  • Nil
    03-20 09:29 AM
    As some of you know, I have been working with news media, government leaders, and immigration lawyers over the past year because of the stimulus debacle. As a result, I have developed some strong contacts in government. I will be meeting some congressional immigration staffers in the next few days and I have developed a list of issues to discuss. If you want to post your own issues, feel free to do so in this thread and I will add them to the list. These are the same people who helped get the last stimulus bill changed in our favor, so they do have influence.

    PLEASE be brief - bullet points would be good.

    Also links to articles to support your concerns are welcome. I will put together a package to hand out at the meeting.

    I thought of posting a poll on this thread, but decided it would be better to leave the discussion open ended.

    Issues that should be addressed:
    - The lawyer-employer nexus determines the category of immigration, often to their advantage.
    - Documents like labor and I140 are never shared with the employee.
    - The unfortunate in the slowest category gets a shot at US citizenship far later (10-15 yrs) than their more lucky counterparts.
    - Changing employment is very risky and an employee remains bound to serve the same employer for many years, or have the process reset.


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  • purplehazea
    05-16 11:49 AM
    I sent you a private message. Check your messages.

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  • Michael chertoff
    05-11 10:43 AM
    Correct. There maybe many such people. And we see it as our failure too. Because as a community we have not raised enough awareness about us. Some people maybe seeing us just a forum and lot more outreach work is needed by our active members. Each one of us should contact our friends and tell them about IV. New members on IV should get answers to their questions as well as information about related advocacy work done by IV politely urging them to help out. Other websites and forums should also help raise awareness about what we do so that the community understand that what we do is for the benefit of the community and it is a community effort.

    Thats true dear pappu,

    I Never donated anything to IV so far, but now I will do that. I did spread awareness about IV from last several years, and will keep doing so.

    IV helps me a lot in providing valuable information plus very big moral support when i got frustrated.

    Thank you I IV and Dear Teddy for his great hardwork.

    is there anyway we can add some more points in IV agenda if they are already not there,

    1. what we can do to reduce Citizenship waiting time for us who are already waiting from many years for GC because of the retrogression.

    2. how to make easier for a unmarried Greencard holder to bring their spouses to US rather then waiting for 4 years.

    if you dont like any of the above suggestions, just ignore and dont fight.


    MC aka Kaka aka Dalai Lama.


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  • forever_waiting
    01-13 11:49 AM
    There is no point in dignifying "plainspeak"'s hatred and abuses with a response since wallowing in the dirt with a rotten pig like him would only cause more harm. He has been sending me abusive and threatening PMs as well which I have been ignoring. Maybe that's his definition of being productive for the community. Being a "senior" member in name only doesn't count. Bringing down the efforts of your own EB community is worse than being an anti- immigrant.

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  • EkAurAaya
    07-17 10:04 PM
    Years we have been told priority date establishes your place in the queue.

    We have spurned job offers and declined the new PERM process to hold on to the priority dates.

    Many are still awaiting labor certifications from the backlog elimination centers. Out comes USCIS and says everyone with a LC can file I140 & I485.

    People still waiting for LC with priority dates in 2003-2004 are seeing applicants who have priority dates as late as 2007 but with approved LCs through PERM walk through to I485.

    Net result, USCIS is going to be flooded with applicants enough to retrogress the priority dates 3-4 years back as early as september. (Everybody with a LC will be able to file for I485 in July). So applicants with priority dates of 2007 are going to get EAD and GC, while LC backlogged 2003 applicants to have to wait for another 3-4 years before they can even file I485.

    Aint fair. Aint fair at all. How can this be. How can rules be changed in the middle of the game.

    Rules have not changed, lot of folks are fortunate they got this window of opportunity... i have a feb 2003 pd and I'm happy that everyone including folks with 2007 pds have a chance to get out of this mess, i dont want anyone to go through the pain and agony we older PD holders have gone through... go god bless everyone, and friend hang in there... whatever happens happens for good believe in that, your older PD will help you in future you never know, so cheer up think well for others and i m sure someone up above will think well for you (you are one of the fortunate ones to be in this country - compare this to the millions from where you came)


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    11-14 02:21 PM
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  • slammer
    03-27 10:09 AM
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  • pappu
    02-03 11:01 AM
    This is a good idea. See my answers in red inside your post

    Pappu, thanks for the initiative. I will contribute.

    No need to thank. Just show up in DC to community your GC problems to lawmakers. That is a big thank you to IV team in itself for all the time, money and energy we are going to spend organizing this event.

    You will contribute for yourself. This advoacy day is for you and your own greencard. It is not a charity to IV. IV is you and me and we are only providing another avenue for each one of IV members to come to DC and tell lawmakers about the suffering they undergo during the greencard process.

    I also have another suggestion. Why don't we also do a targeted campaign at partnering with corporate HRs to push for EB relief.

    Yes we also want that and need your help and everyone on the forum to help us

    Many corporate HRs are aware of the EB2 and EB3 retro pains.

    Incorrect. How can they be aware of any pain themselves? Has anyone even approached the senior management asking for help. Raely anyone has done that. And whenever someone has done that and help was offered , we have known. The fact is HR of big companies do not know of any pain. Even if they know of any pain, they will not do anything about it unless their OWN employees tell them about it and ask them to help them by supporting IV. This is not happening and that is the problem. IV is you and me and everyone else on this forum. Not just pappu or core team. Each one of us working for big companies need to gather courage and approach the senior management. It is very easy to comment on the forum and provide big ideas and direction, but I have seen that when it comes to walking the talk very very few have the will or interest to carry out their own suggestion. IV was created precisely for this reason. People were lurking on various forums before IV and hiding behind anonymity. They were scared to do anything and could only hope to GOD , lawyers or whoever could help them. Everyone was throwing ideas at each other and not doing anything. The whole community was screwed and nobody was even willing to even go and talk to the media with their real name, go to DC and talk to lawmakers on their own money and vacation time. People would not even open up to their friends and talk to their friends about green card problems and do something together. This community had to stop living a life of tail between the legs and blaming their fate for their own problems. IV is a platform where you no longer have to complain. Each one of us on this forum has now enough awareness, has seen what we all are capable of doing together in advocacy so there is no reason to not approach our employers.

    These corps rely on EB2 and EB3 folks for innovation and technology. Corporations have a lot of power in pushing legislation.

    If this is true, what is stopping us try this route?

    I am just suggesting to try other channels as well. Corporates being just one.
    I agree. Let us try.

    Here is a list of some major corporations in the Midwest to start with. Others can add to the list from midwest and other geographies.

    Company Mail address
    All State 2775 Sanders Road, Northbrook, IL 60062
    State Farm State Farm Insurance, One State Farm Plaza, Bloomington, IL 61710
    Kraft Three Lakes Drive, Northfield, IL 60093
    Walgreens 200 Wilmot Road, Deerfield, IL 60015
    Abbott Labs 100 Abbott Park Road. Abbott Park, Illinois 60064-3500
    Caterpillar 100 North East Adams Street, Peoria, Illinois USA 61629
    Motorola 600 North U.S. Highway 45, Libertyville, Illinois 60048 USA
    Eli Lilly Lilly Corporate Center, Indianapolis, Indiana 46285

    Address is not of any value. What we need is real humans in our community who can approach their senior management and talk about their plight. If you are really serious about your idea, contact us. We will help you. You can lead this effort by providing guidance and information to other members how to carry out this idea. If you work for a large corporation, you can first try it yourself and lead by example. If you work for a small firm, then you can volunteer by collecting interested people on the forums and coordinating this effort.

    The fact is, each one of us is capable of carrying out our ideas if we have the will to do it. This will happen only if we are sincere about this effort and really want to do something about our own greencard. If we all think that simply coming to a forum and posting some ideas or arguing with others over spillovers or predictions is all they can do, then we are all wasting our time, energy and money. There are many other sites out there where you can track your applications to waste your time. Or post unlimited ideas for nobody to work on or just argue with other. None of the people benefit from such sites, except the owner of such sites that make lot of money from the internet traffic or publicity of their legal business or any other business services. The longer this community stays in this screwed state the more money these sites will continue to make. This ignorance of the community is sad and laughable to some extent. If you come to IV and give suggestion, better be serious about what you think and we will help you will all you need to lead your idea on this platform.

    04-08 03:30 PM
    EB1 spillover may never come for some time in the future. The Indian IT companies are applying under EB1 for their PMs and Senior PMs (req: BS in any discipline + 6-7 yrs exp), labeling them as multi-national executives. They are also making the employee pay for the 140 and 485 so that the financial impact is reduced a lot by a potential rejection of the 140.

    This is as much BS as labor sub. I think everybody here knows how tough it is to get EB1 classification for researchers. But what scrutiny is there for these "multi-national executives" ? All they have to do is spend some time in India or any other country as a PM or SPM, come to the US on H1B and promptly apply under EB1. :mad:

    You nailed it. This is the other form of labor substitution loophole the indian IT companies are using. Even I have started to hear quite a few cases now that indian IT PM or manager are being labelled as multi-national executives. If this is not stopped then any relief from spillover, you can just forget about it. I have heard lot of cases now like this and we need to do something about it. Only genuine candidates should be able to apply in this category.

    06-29 01:03 PM
    You have a nice attorney
    Here is what my attorney has sent regarding the AILA release, i dont know whether to believe him or other attorneys, i think i have no choice but to go with what my attorney says.He has been really good in these kinds ofnotices for the past 3 plus years, hope he is correct even with this.

    1)There is no way that USCIS would get away with shutting down filing of EB-1, EB-2 and EB-3 Adjustment filings without a massive class action lawsuit against the agency;
    2)The power to determine the availability or non-availability of permanent residence visa numbers rests solely with the Department of State. USCIS rejected the �Other Worker� Adjustments based upon a notice from the Department of State that there were no longer any visa numbers for the category. I recently attended our annual AILA immigration conference and there were members in attendance who had interviewed the Department of State official who sets the priority dates. The understanding was unequivocal that the Department of State office felt the numbers would remain available throughout July, and perhaps, as late as September;
    3)At this time, there are 40,000 immigrant visa numbers available for the rest of the fiscal year. This means that in order for the Department of State to issue any kind of notice to USCIS, 40,000 permanent residence petitions would have to be APPROVED prior to the end of July. I am highlighting the word approved, because I need for all of my clients to understand that between June and July, there will a lot more than 40,000 Adjustments filed. However, what determines an immigrant visa number usage is the approval of a permanent residence.

    Now let�s go back to simple math: there are 140,000 immigrant visas available per fiscal year. 40,000 visa numbers are available at this time. The fiscal year runs from October 1st through September 30th. That means that in the first 9 months of the fiscal year, the Department of State and USCIS have managed to approve 100,000, which turns out to be 11,111 petitions per month. There is no possible way that USCIS and the Department of State are going to approve almost 4 times the number of permanent residencies in the month of July. The agencies do not have the time, nor do they have the manpower to approve 40,000 petitions within the next 30 days or so. That is the very reason why the Department of State official solely responsible for the priority dates felt pretty good about the availability of visa numbers throughout the month of July when he spoke to my colleagues from AILA.

    To be honest with all of you, I was really disappointed in the message from AILA. In the rush to �inform,� they forgot to pause, analyze and really discuss the true possibility that USCIS would be directed by the Department of State to halt receipt of Adjustment of Status petitions. I want my clients to know this: at this point, I am not worried that the visa numbers will not be available throughout July. If I were worried, I would let you know. My responsibility is to guide you through this process and if there is any genuine worry on my part, I will let you know IMMEDIATELY.

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