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  • suriajay12
    04-09 02:50 PM
    Which is first? Egg or Chicken?

    If we have enough budget, we can hire good lobbying firm who can then guide us. Without any contributions, we can not even approach the lobbying firms for any help. The contributions that we make are not even enough for maintenance of this web site.

    Why not you guide us? Hire a lobbying firm and inform every one here that it will cost this much and this is how you want to do?

    I am not part of IV core. if all of us contribute big money, we can hire the best lobbying. We saw the last results.

    The points you are trying to tell contradict the point that you are not part of Core. So lets not look into their account books or ask for any reports how its spent. I trust them on that.

    Now chicken or egg??.. Good question..

    Remember one man who walked with nothing on, except a small waist cloth, very old yet with a motivation to free his country and who did succeed..How was he able to raise his voice when there was no internet or radio. People felt the pain and when one man was leading it, they expressed it.. peacefully mostly.

    If we watch videos of the the campaign he did, you will easily realize that that needed money too.. Where did that come from.

    Here too many of us feel the pain. EB2 or EB3.. we dont deserve this crap nor did we dream about. Did you think about this when you first stepped into US, if you did more than 4 years back???. NO.

    The point I am trying to make is, one you start walking or working in the right direction and motivate people, then contributions and efforts will follow. You dont need to explain so much. Money is not a problem for many to contribute a little.. Afterall it helps them right.. If you take the lead and tell us or start a big campaign.. WHY not the FLOWER CAMPAIGN once again.. Isnt this the right time. It can work anytime as long as the problem is genuine. Why dont we do that. When CIR is talked about by the president, and when undoc workers are doing a march again as one guy here says, then what makes us the legal guys, to sit and wait and predict visa bulletins. EB2 is 04 now.. Next month that will change to U. Do you want to wait for that.
    We need a FIX.. and that has to be said loud and clear.,
    Sorry if I'm offending anyone here...

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  • go2roomshare
    06-20 05:21 PM

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  • hellomms
    04-30 01:19 PM

    We all had a sigh of relief when we saw the new labor certification process (Perm) and were promised that it will be much faster and smooth. Thankfully they have kept their promise, for the most part, except for the cases that get audited.

    The cases that are 'randomly audited' have been pending for months and months, some cases () have been pending for over an year and there have been no response from DoL what so ever. I understand that a year does not sound bad especially to those folks who had their labor approved through the old process but these days the labor is getting approved within 50-60 days (average). It appears that the DOL (Atlanta Processing Center at least) does not bother to look at the documents once the audit has been replied to.

    Although I understand that not everyone uses and some audit replies may have been replied sooner and were never reported to but you can get the idea just by a sample of the cases that were audited, and see that they have being neglected, ignored or appears that they are no longer considered for further processing. I have seen instances where the lawyers have retreated the application in the audit and filed a new application (a gamble) hoping that it does not get audit this time around. But not sure how that turned out.

    If you visit the Atlanta Perm section on you will see the people's misery I mention here. In fact, I am sure that there are number of IV members who are going through this aggravating process but are silent becuase they know that can not do anything. Even lawyers have shown the sign of disappointment to this hopeless condition.

    So I ask you, Members of IV, to help us and suggest something that (we) can be done to bring this to the attention of some sort of authority that would help trigger the review of Audit responses.

    Thank you!

    We have decided to make this thread a place where all the Perm Auditees come and show their support. As of now we are gathering people here to estimate how many people are out there suffering the delays caused by Perm Audit. I have added a poll which is a way for us to estimate the number of people who will support any action that we take to make our voice heard.

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  • pappusheth
    08-19 06:51 PM
    I got the CPO email just now.. i'm not sure if it's because of the SR that my wife opened on Friday evening or it just happened without that.. but anyways it's a relief now.. i also see a lot of people getting cpo emails today.. btw, just curious, does the cpo stage come before "approved" status or after it?

    now hope that i receive the card in time.. will post about its validity and start date once i receive it. (i'll be current for the month of September as my pd is july 06)

    good luck to others who are waiting and hope that they get cpos soon

    i got one more cpo email for ead today. the emails that i got today is exactly same as the one that i yesterday except the date of cpo. Yesterday's email said that "on August 16, 2008 we ordered... " and today's email says that "on August 18, 2008 we ordered...". anyways, i'm not worried about these multiple emails.. now waiting for getting the actual card in hand..


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  • Michael chertoff
    05-04 08:10 AM
    People from EB2 India June are getting approval left and right with in 3 days of months which is good sign. What does that mean ? DOS prediction for porting is not as high as they thought.

    If porting was high then people from EB3 who ported should get more and more approval than people who are in EB2. We will not see any movement in June may be week or two but in July I think we will reach end of 2006. Aug and Sep is DOS's call.

    Not everyone is getting approved. I am still waiting.

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  • pappu
    06-26 10:11 AM
    The situation is the same. In my case and of course in most of others too, what he/she said is correct. Waiting for Eb3 to cross 2001 has become a difficult thing. If I started an EB2 app rather than hoping positively, I would have finished my wait for GC.

    Ever since retrogression started the dates have not crossed 2001. 245i or not, the backlog is a fact. Sad part, when there is action items from IV, trying to talk to my state members, I have realized and been told that IV does not cater to EB3 anymore. It is disheartening how much ever I try to explain, occasional members look at IV threads like EB2-EB3 predictions and say there is no hope for EB3 and also IV has no answer to it.

    I tried my part...too bad I was not able to participate in the IV advocacy day due to family emergency. anyway, let us hope IV's persistence yields us the results. My heart goes for a lot of EB3s who may automatically qualify for EB2 just due to their experience.

    Best of luck to all.

    You are hearing utter nonsense from your friends. They have no inclination to find out the truth or wish to take part in the action item. Such armchair strategy folks are the reason we are all suffering in EB3 I. If these folks joined this effort and worked hard to fix it, we would have made lot more progress. Despite being highly educated, some people fall prey to divisive posts and opinions on the forums without checking the facts.

    People who had come to the DC advocacy day this month know what we do and that our focus is solving EB retrogression completely. We do not talk about EB2 , EB3 categories. We talk about the overall retrogression in EB visas.

    The biggest damage and threat to this effort is not from anti-immigrants or other interest groups but from people of our own community who spread lies, pursue personal agenda and grudges, talk against this effort and cause damage to this community effort. They forget that this damages their own cause. Have you seen divisive posts, or anti-organization posts on the forums of anti-immigrants? Just think about it.

    After leading this effort for more than 4 years I have come to a realization that we as a community are the reason of our own failure and the reason for our own successes. There is nobody else to be blamed. If we have to blame someone for this broken system, it is ourselves for not being able to get together and fix it.


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  • Marphad
    01-23 04:23 PM
    In the case you are laid off and are on H1... u can file for foreclosure :-( or bankrupcy.. and walk out of this country.

    Please add: "And never come back again!"

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  • aa_ke_phas_gaya
    03-31 06:02 PM
    I agree, a phone call or meeting in person will be much more effective if we can do that. And this situation definitely needs such attention. If one can't get time for this effort, he/she has no right to complain about it.

    I think we need a good strategy to fix this and I believe any problem, with a good strategy, can be solved in reasonable time.

    To press right buttons we need following
    - Separate legal employment based immigration delays issue from other issues like (family based, J1, H1 etc.) Not that other issues are less important but diluted efforts won't we won't achieve results. SO concentrate on just one issue and press for it. For now let's just talk about those who are waiting for over 5-7 years for their green cards.
    - Don't ask for CIR, increase/decrease quota or any change in existing laws but a swift one time executive order or a temporary introduction of a new law or something like that. Totally separate from current immigration law one time fix to existing problem.
    - Immigration reform - you can do what ever with it whenever. We have a problem here we need a fix.
    - Try to communicate this issue with your local media. Letters, phone calls, meetings can help up to certain extent but media can put issues on fast track. Long waits, restrictions in making life & family decisions and personal freedom are issues well understood by this country and these are the reasons why we are here. If you communicate these issues correctly everyone will understand. Put your story out on local news paper / radio. Get a local group set-up and get with your local cultural/ethnic group leaders who are enjoying their citizenship and freedom and ask them to get involved.

    Let's get results, one step at a time.


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  • voldemar
    05-16 01:15 PM
    I thnk no. As I-140 is only fo ryou. not fo rhte dependants.
    So as long as you are married and your spouse is in US before you file AOS you should be fine.Clarification: you should be married before approval of your I-485. If your spouse is in US you can file I-485 for her otherwise - consular processing if dates are current.

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  • humdesi
    07-12 01:12 AM
    Will the reply be made public? Grassley and Durbin wrote to TCS, Infosys and other big bodyshoppers with a list of questions. The replies were never made public.
    Also, wonder if greencards issued without security clearance will be revoked? Anything is possible in this immigration circus.


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  • GotGC??
    01-17 03:37 PM
    I've already signed up for monthly contribution...and sent LogicLife's mail as a wake up call for all the fence sitters and freeloaders.

    I can relate with anurakt's feelings...it's amazing how penny wise pound foolish people can get!

    Come on guys, I have introduced at least 8 friends to IV and (almost) forced then to contribute :) Let's all get 2-3 members and persuade them to contribute.

    As LogicLife said, if we do not pitch in at this time, we might not as well...

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  • Saralayar
    04-13 11:00 PM
    As far as I know

    1)Allowed to live and work in the US with no restrictions
    2)Must be present in the US for at least 6 months in every year
    3) Cannot apply for certain government jobs
    4)Cannot vote
    5)Cannot apply for a US passport
    6)Must be renewed every 10 years?

    Restrictions 2,3,4,5 and 6 does not apply
    Very clear explaination of difference between Cintizenship and GC. Thanks Lasantha.


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  • pappu
    12-16 05:00 PM
    Great work everyone. We now have 7,599 members. 2001 more members needed by Dec 31. If everyone can get at least one member in IV we can easily cross this target.

    It is also a reminder to everyone to contribute. In the past 2 days there have been no contributions. In this whole month, less than 15 people have contributed. only 2 people contributed $200 and some $100 and everyone else less than $100. With this you can imagine how much contributions we get. This holiday season, all make sure to contribute some amount to IV. This money will work for you.

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  • AirWaterandGC
    07-11 06:04 PM
    We should thank this Congresswoman. Thank you !! At least someone cares.


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  • goel_ar
    04-08 05:49 PM
    Also, lot of EB1 guys working through consulting companies - negotiate there Green Card to be filed as EB1 before joining them.
    And Consulting companies can show anything they want..any hierarchy/structure etc.
    On the other hand, actual PHD does have lot of knowledge , publishing paper is daunting task which needs lot of research and originality.

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  • vicks_don
    07-21 03:33 PM
    I thought there was another thread ..but will post here too
    efile on april 28 at TSC
    FP approx 20 days after that
    June 24 card prod email
    no card as of july 21

    if anyone in similar situation .please send me a message ..will be calling TSC in 3 days ...are they out of plastic ??

    Mine is approved on June25th. No card till now. I talked to IO and he said that he sees it in printing queue( Not yet Printed ). They printed approvals from June 19th on July 14th. So I am hoping they print mine this week.


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  • needhelp!
    04-15 02:01 PM
    Yeah I started off faster than normal and for the last five minutes I did a stroll.. Its gone now, I don't feel it anymore.

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  • pappu
    04-08 08:19 PM
    Hahahaha... that's my ironic laafter!
    Every one got a nice GPL again this month - yet no one really wants to do anything... why?

    Because "Chal raha hai to chalne do" ... the usual Desi mentality...

    All this sounds crude - but its true. Truth is almost always bitter... like the VB every month!

    I just donated to IV ... gimme REDs if you want, I care the least ... all I really care about is the GREEN (card)...

    Good luck fellowmen, we are all together in this boat - all we need is a mass awakening for the lawmakers to our state of being!

    Thank you. The community needs to wake up. Times are going to be tough not just for H1B but for everyone else in line for GC.
    Advocacy is a long term process that requires lot of efforts and resources. We should not be expecting quick results because of one month's contribution. That is peanuts when you compare it with the amount being spent against us.

    It is high time people join the state chapters and try to lead them if your state chapter is dormant or inactive. Action items will happen but we need to be ready. Try to get more people in IV. The mantra for success will be mass participation in the coming times. It should not be a couple of hundred phone calls or faxes that happened last year, but hundreds of thousands of calls, faxes and thousands of meetings.
    If we can achieve that then we will definitely increase chances of success significantly this year.

    This community needs to think how it can increase mass participation on IV and bring everyone waiting in line on IV platform.

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  • illusions
    04-07 12:22 PM
    This is a wonderful idea. Having waited for 10 years for green card, if one has to wait for 5 more years for naturalization (that allows one to vote in the elections), then it is indeed an utter discomfort. We need something like IV but with a different name: NaturalizationVoice (it would be envy -NV- of all in IV ;-)) to campaign for immediate ready-to-serve naturalization of highly skilled (like Saralayar, of course) permanent residents.. NV should also campaign for an amendment that would allow highly skilled immigrant turned naturalized citizens (eg. Saralayar) to contest as presidential candidates. If any such person wins, he or she could either ban immigration (at least for other high skilled people) or abolish waiting period for greencard.

    Makes sense, like the idea of abolishing the waiting period for GC.... but with all due respect i belive that will never happen esp in a post 911 era where there is a lot of checks. I belive if they put the name check process in a fast track it would be benificial. Suks that we have to wait another 5 years after getting GC to get Citizenship, if anything i would think counting 5 years after 485 is logical.

    01-17 04:12 PM
    I like the monthly subscription feature. Just signed for $20/month. Guys - please sign up... $20/month is not too much but it has potential to turn in a big amount if all of us sign up. This is very essential for getting the relief this year...

    Please contribute.

    03-30 04:19 PM
    I want to thank all of the ones who actively participated in the "add the member campaign" some of you who actively participated are: rajesh_kamisetty,permgc,mjdup,anurakt,ashok,pmpfor gc,janakp,neelu,gckaintezar,rsayed,pcs,paskal,maca cca.
    Thanks to you, we are 10,000 strong. Ofcourse Pappu and the core team.

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