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  • smisachu
    06-16 02:55 PM
    You cannot compare a recession to retrogression. A recession is a shrinking economy which is a natural correction of supply and demand. Retrogression is an artificial rationing which has no bearing on demand. It is almost un democratic and prejudiced. What they are doing here by imposing caps by country is they are rationing brilliance. Is it our fault that India and China produces more number of PhD�s and engineers than say Kenya or Denmark?
    If you are looking for diversity look for it under family immigration and not under employment based immigration.

    Your analogy of recession works for the H1. As you see in a falling demand environment the demand for H1 visas this year is tepid compared to previous years. There is no excess supply in employment based immigration as all EB immigrants are gainfully employed and hence �Employment Based� immigrants. There certainly are some who have purchased substitute labor certifications and finding loop holes in the law through consulting firms. I doubt that they are a significant part of the population waiting for visa numbers.

    Your attaining green card is luck more than Pluck. Due to random visa allotment last year many people with dates in 2006 were given green cards ignoring people with prior dates. Now do you intend to say that they were more qualified than those with older priority dates? The whole intention of retrogression is not even to weed out the bum applicants, it is just a result of apathy towards a small immigrant population which is politically insignificant. You can argue all you want of the survival of fittest, but the basic fact is if some one has a PhD in physics and has multiple companies offering jobs, he is not going to stand in line meekly to collect his green card after 10 years. He is going to leg it and go to some other country who will welcome him and his intellect with open arms. So the fittest will be gone and only the mediocre will be left.

    The current retrogression is not a way to filter the fittest out; it is just dumb political red tape.

    Why do you have to resort to calling names ? Are ad hominem arguments the best you could come up with ? Let me give you an analogous case wherein people say that a recession is a good thing. Recession occurs in order to cleanse the economy of bohemian excesses and inefficiencies. Do you think that such people are sadists and belong to the mental asylum ? Of course there are people who get affected in a recession. Does it mean it is not desired ? In a similar vein, you need to understand that there were and are huge gaping inefficiencies in the current immigration process. There has to be a way to curb these excesses and inefficiencies. Retrogression may not be the best way but it is the only way utilized right now. If you still believe that I have to subscribe to these inefficiencies despite having gone through the immigration process, I am sorry I beg to differ.

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  • bitu72
    10-03 05:21 PM
    Write them a letter saying that you were educated in English and you are proficient inEnglish. They dont care for IELTS if you apply for US.

    Good Luck.It is straightforward and easy
    1. You said Original Transcripts( i think you meant notarized copies of my transcripts)

    2. How did you guys get experience letter from current employer, probably by saying we are getting visa for our parent to come here... any other ideas???

    3. There are certain requirement for pictures to be taken, is it possible to get from walgreens or walmart.

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  • Caliber
    09-04 01:27 PM
    I am not any of these. I bet you guys .. $million

    Go to your postings in this thread and read what you wrote in "Brain Damage". You wanted to distribute sweets??? How do you feel when YS Jagan grabs what you have in your village? You were supporting them so much, why not advice them to return 10,000 acres of land that he grabbed for Brahmani Steels? Jesus Christ killed YSR, otherwise, they would have grabbed all your village. Be happy, Jesus took him away.

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  • amsgc
    07-04 01:03 PM

    If I cannot apply within the next one year, do you agree that I will have to spend again on:
    - Lawyer fees for form preparation and accounting of changes in laws= $2000
    - Medical examinations And Immunization costs = $300 (many docs dont' take insurance, they didn't in my area) * 2 = $600
    - Photographs = $25* 2 = $50
    - Courrier services, photocopying, printing, long distance calls = $200

    So, once again, I am looking at spending: $2850. This money that I/employer spent last month is GONE. Who is responsible now? That's all i wanted to point out. When I said double, I meant spending $2850 twice, and also adjust for inflation. The above costs do not include USCIS filing fee.

    To calculate the money that has gone down the drain, just multiply that by say 50000 applicants who will not be able to apply within 1 year. That's well over $100 million. This is not a small amount, one could start a pretty good size company that can effciently go through the backlogs.

    >> This is money that has gone down the drain.
    None of the FEES has been accepted by USCIS as they even did not accept the petition. So the fees cannot be calculated.

    >>So in the end, you may end up spending more than twice the amount of money, and more in application fees.
    Yes, the fees gets revised start July 30. But you need NOT pay again and again to extend EAD/AP, if requried. Need to calculate the difference. Also not sure if the Attorney's would charge twice as they have to resubmit the paper with little or no modification.

    Money lost will be the amount spent on Medical Examination (In my case $550, as I ended up with a doctor of my choice out side my medical insurance network), So even if my conpany can reimburse, I cannot... Also per my attorney Medical Examination Reports are valid for a year, If we apply within a year, this is also not lost. If someone or his family has to rush back to USA, to file AOS, then the amount spent are waste. Loss of vacation and money.

    My point is not to discourage any one, but when we wirte to media, folks will investigate all before they publish to main stream. We need to be fair and should provide the correct information, else we might loose the coverage.

    We need to highlight the expenses occured and stress this has caused to many many people.


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  • snathan
    01-15 04:05 PM
    I agree, but its sort of v late. We know, i dont know want to name but majority of the people come from one particular state, and most cases of fraud/body shops are from them. They are all settled since the the Y2K era, even though they never deserved on merit basis.

    Lets not start another stupid fight here. We are all concerned about the new memo and we are all going to get affacted. Lets focus on cause and remedy.

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  • smuggymba
    01-16 02:17 PM
    Shaant bhaiyon shaant. Take it easy. Lets get back to the topic.

    I hope that this memo is not mis-used to affect the good apples, that's it.


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  • greencard_fever
    07-25 10:31 AM
    Well I agree with you and some other members. Most of these lawyers don't know crap what they are talking about. I have my white lawyer, so far the experience has been good with him, but when I asked about the current dates, he was quiet perplexed.

    The fact is , no one has done calculation like we IV members, also in Ron's post nothing was mentioned about horizontal or vertical movement. All the comments made by this lawyer are more on subjective and speculative lines.

    Ron Gotcher is simply doing a guess work here,

    It's reverse psychology, create a little tension among applicants, and the lawyers will get more clients for answers. Believe it or not, IV has affected a lot lawyers business, as now members here are more educated in filling up different forms themselves. Somehow I feel, even a firm like Murthy law looks up to IV for latest updates.

    Well said,Yes attorneys would not know much about the recent changes in processing the application and VISA spill over changes.I bet every since IV made a remarkable place in Immigration community Murthy might be experiencing cut down in new clients and less mumber of Hits to MURTHY.COM

    Kudos to IV and all Core team members.

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  • hiralal
    06-01 07:28 PM
    ss benefits when we retire is such a long way away ..who knows what the situation will be that time ..US just needs a law change and ss benefits can be denied at that time ,,,so it makes more sense to discuss and act on recapture rather than waste time on something that will occur is 2025 or later ..just a thought


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  • dummgelauft
    06-15 09:15 PM
    I am certainly hoping that I will get by EOY 2011. It's more than hope, I feel pretty confident that by that time I should get it. Just mark my words, come back on dec 31, 2011 and check with me. You have to believe before you get it. Have faith guys. Sooner or later the man who wins is the one who thinks he can!!!!

    NNReddy, good for you if you believe this.
    I myself find it hard to do so. Infact, I envy your optimism.

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  • kumarc123
    07-24 12:32 PM
    Well since the start of this thread and ones before this thread focused on the dates for EB2 India. A lot of speculations were drawn, some members like vldrao and others put in a lot of thought and work to reach a significant analysis.

    But let's not dwell in to the dates only.

    We have certain bills in the house, no recent posts have been developed to discuss about campaigns. We got this far because of all our joint efforts. So let us not pause ourselves right here, now that EB2 dates are getting close to being current, let us all make loud noise to galvanize USCIS members to work more effectively.

    Speculations at this point are excellent, but lets work towards the bigger picture.



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  • hopefulgc
    05-29 09:25 AM
    Seems like Mr. charles is full of shit. He is sounding "informed" but i don't think they know what the real numbers are....YET. It showed inadvertently, when he said "based on the Eb3 demand for the rest of the year". Hello.. EB3 is unavailable.

    I mean what do you expect him to do when you corner him and start asking him questions. He is gonna have to throw numbers out there to make himself look informed and intelligent and on top of his game.

    The sad part is he is going to now set the VBs as he stated here to validate his erroneous statements.

    1. Employment-Based Visa Number Movement and Predictions

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  • hebbar77
    09-04 03:23 PM
    Image of india : what are you talking abt.

    I can tell you how corrupt indian govts are from my personal experience.

    If someone dies at ur home, to get the govt doctor come and give you clearance to take the body to burial it takes thousands of rupees. Police need no less either. Else your loved one will be waiting for those ***. If you have to claim ur loved ones insurance to take care of expenses during his death, offices play u around... They just want more money!!

    I see people changing faith to get free money... its not abt faith but division in our own people. We like foreign cars, foreign made netas, foreign faiths... foreign jobs... oh #!?***

    With this happening to you if you are worried abt ur countries outside image... I have nothing to say...

    For all who are unhappy with govt in india : why dont we start a political party of our own?


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  • bigboy007
    06-13 12:35 PM
    One things for sure, we cant clear all the problems EB Community is facing in one shot. Agreed that EB Visa recapture will help temporarily but that helps a lot , Still the movement should go on either on country cap or something that would eliminate backlog. But one thing for sure if we keep debating that we need all in one shot its not going to happen. One can keep complaining that i am ahead of many of others but think analytically, we dont enjoy a great support either in house or senate, getting a simple legislation or getting our cause on CIR is itself a big thing here.

    Outsourcing is going to happen or not its a different story. US has shifted 99% of it manufacturing jobs, if all admin , it jobs are going to go away where does the money come from to run this country ? Eitherways it is going to happen more in recession, but how is that going to effect our outlook in this discussion ?

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  • matrixneo
    09-05 07:31 PM

    Because of assholes like you ,
    .....MOTHER FUCKER...

    Please, stop using this language


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  • alisa
    02-13 02:04 PM
    Is the cumulative effect of all three measures good for me (reduced wait time, or no change in wait time), or bad for me (increased wait time.)?

    I read this, and I was referring to this:

    If you think a little extra time you need to spend in the queue is turning you so angry, what goes in the mind of a person who has to spend twice or thrice as much time in the same queue, for no fault of his/hers?

    So, does recapture and the increase in quota and the removal of the country limits, result in a greater wait time for me, as the comment above seems to imply. It would, if the recapture and the increase are not large enough to offset the effects of the removal of the per-country limit on ROW.

    Coz if it does, then I don't have an incentive to support your goals, do I?

    If you see the entire post, you will see that the agenda is

    1) Increasing GC numbers
    2) Recapturing numbers and instituting permanent Rollover mechanisms
    3) Eliminate country quotas

    Part 1 and 2 would help everyone from around the world. While 3 would benefit citizens of a few countries more than others, all it is saying is STOP discriminating in employment based green cards on basis of country of origin. You are not BORN with skills and neither does being born in country A make you more SKILLED than being born in country B.

    If you want to see 3 as being the reason to not participate, that you are implicitly condoning discrimination against people born in certain country even though you will benefit equally from 1 and 2.

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  • simple1
    05-18 05:15 PM
    To me: sinhalas and tamils look very similar.
    This guy even goes further and says they are one and the same.


    The present day Sinhala-Tamil conflict though originally a conflict between followers of Hinduism and the neo converts to Buddhism had morphed into a conflict between casteist Tamil Hindus and Tamil followers of ‘Organized Buddhism’ to a conflict between Tamils and Sinhala with the converted Buddhist shifting there allegiance to Pali/Sinhala.Organized Buddhism succeeded in separating Elangai from Tamilakam with its own language of Pali/Sinhala.


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  • JazzByTheBay
    07-11 08:19 PM
    Have heard good things about Maple Intl. We filed on our own without any agencies. It's not terribly complicated, and certainly not the nightmare that getting a US permanent residence is with its 3-step process of LCA, I-140 petition for immigrant worker and I-485 AOS (or CP).

    At times I wonder why they continue with this terribly complicated process in the U.S. - it clearly isn't working, but as long as it keeps the hordes of DoL and USCIS folks employed, I guess it serves its purpose.


    Maple International is very good if you are in the west

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  • snram4
    01-15 08:40 PM
    USA was like that for past 100 years. Many times Protectionist bills were passed and many times they were relaxed in past. There will be impacts but it will not bring down the country just because they block a few thousand H1bs. If USA needs to go down there should be some other alternative country should come up relative to that level. India and china have a potential but nowhere near to that for now as they so much dependent on USA and dollar.

    Then USA become USSR and go down the toilet....

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  • kingkong
    09-04 02:00 PM
    I am from AP. And my father had first hand experience getting ripped off by this dead mans cronies when they threatened and grabbed my fathers small plot, that he had bought way back in 89, on the out-skirts of Hyd. All it took was one single threatening phone call to my father and my father signed the sale deed for the land the very next day, not asking a single penny in return. His family was more precious to him than the bloody piece of land. My father worked as a clerk in a central govt office. He is a simple man and has no clout.

    I am sad that YSR is dead. I wish he survived but with 3rd degree burns and limped out his miserable life for the next 100 yrs.

    I am from Kerala. not from AP.(studied in Bangalore and have friends from almost every state from India) I AM NOT A REDDY OR RAO.

    Some of my friends are from Bihar (CHILDREN OF MP'S, MLA) go home for elections and lead booth capturing. They shared their experience with me.



    Let the people from AP, comment about him. If they give him second time, it is clear that majority like him. No doubt about it. If he is not good, why you people campaign against him by blogs for go to India and vote against him ???

    I DIDN'T SUPPORT ANY POLITICIANS. But have a sympathy for a dead person and other 5 people in the accident.
    This can happen to any one of us at any time. Do not rejoice in Tragedies.

    02-15 11:48 AM
    What Beastia meant was, send your own personal cheques as opposed to getting your employer to send theirs or pay with bank drafts etc. That way like he explained, you will know when USCIS cashed your cheques, and if you have online access to your account you will get to find out your file number way before USCIS sends the receipt notice.

    Aslo I belive you have to send seperate cheques for each application. One for 485, seperate one for EAD and another for AP. I don't know if that's a rule but that's how my attorney asked me to send the cheques.


    First thanks 4 your advice. We'll send 2 separate cheques, one 4 me and one 4 my husband.Is this what U meant when suggesting 2 send "my own cheque"?

    Why do U say I have good chance to have my AOS adjudecated? I really needed to hear that. Can U be more specific? Any idea/guess how long could it take to get GC?

    About EAD. I 'm on H4, not working yet, that's why I am eager to get EAD. Do U think that there is no chance to get it within the 90 days? My husband is on H1B an he has I40 already approved. He won't leave his job that's for sure.

    What "IV" stands for? Where can I found more about it?

    04-09 10:36 AM
    I have some questions about the Canadian immigration application:

    1. Birth certificates: They are asking for the Birth Certificates with the application. I and my wife don't have our birth registered in India. Can we provide birth certificates that the Indian embassy sends for this purpose? For US I-485, we were planning to use Non-availability certificates.

    2. Experience Letter: Will a notarized letter from colleague work for showing work-exp in India. Please note that I already have over 4 yrs of experience in US after that - for which I will manage to get a work exp letter from my company.

    3. Status in US: My H1B is valid until Oct 2009, but I don't have the visa stamped on my passport (last H1B visa stamp expired). Can I send a copy of I-797 to prove my status? Also, my wife's F-1 visa has expired but she has a valid I-20 until Dec 2007. Can I send copy of I-20 for proving her valid status in US?

    I would really appreciate if someone can provide insight in these concerns.


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